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I doubt he got a buy out like Charlie Weiss did.

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/msn/05/30/11/Tressels-tenure-over-at-Ohio-State/landing_ohiostate.html?blockID=529470&feedID=3631&

Before the the 2011 season gets started a lot more will be dumped on tOSU.

Tressel should be banned from coaching anywhere else.

He was one of the best at what he did, unfortunately it was not all for the good.

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Posted : May 30, 2011 11:15 am
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ESPN reported last night that since he resigned (voluntary) that he will get no severance pay or any other money. We don't see a lot about Ohio State in Okie but he seemed like a class guy to me. Guess the big league win at all costs claims another coach.

 
Posted : May 31, 2011 3:57 am
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Some other major university will be thrilled to hire him for enough money to buy a skyscraper in Dubai.

 
Posted : May 31, 2011 6:00 am
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> I doubt he got a buy out like Charlie Weiss did.
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>> http://www.foxsportsohio.com/msn/05/30/11/Tressels-tenure-over-at-Ohio-State/landing_ohiostate.html?blockID=529470&feedID=3631&
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> Before the the 2011 season gets started a lot more will be dumped on tOSU.
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> Tressel should be banned from coaching anywhere else.
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> He was one of the best at what he did, unfortunately it was not all for the good.
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> Paul in PA

I WAS a huge fan of Coach Tressel and Ohio State...

Now I'm just a fan of Ohio State... He must have had his head buried in the sand... or somewhere darker... uuuggghhh..... Sports Illustrated article

 
Posted : May 31, 2011 7:06 am
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Tressel has had a reputation for quite some time, going back to his days as an assistant coach, and then he left Youngstown State in NCAA trouble when he jumped to OSU. Then he had the issues with Clarett early on at OSU. Now this, but with multiple players and other OSU official involvement. It's been the same allegations against Tressel from the beginning, that's he's got a support network of boosters willing to pay players and give them perks, but this is first time it might stick. Supposedly, Tressel himself even signed some of the items that players were selling to the memorabilia dealers.

Also, the compliance director at OSU supposedly was in on arranging special deals for players at various car lots. This is “death penalty” type allegations against OSU, but I don’t think the NCAA will have the nuts to sacrifice a sacred cow.

 
Posted : May 31, 2011 11:35 am
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I have not seen a lot of compelling evidence against the institution itself. That is what gave SMU the Death Penalty years ago and it killed their program for almost 30 years. I really don't see the NCAA doing that again unless they have the tri-fecta, students, coaches and university board members.

So far it's students and coach. I suppose we wil see how this unravels. SMU stopped payments and then disgruntled players came forward. What killed them was evidence that the institution itself was part of the scheme. I hope they don't get the death penalty but I think they will get hit very hard on scholarships and other sanctions.

And Tressel, just moves on and walks away. This is the unfair part of NCAA sanctions. They don't often hurt the ones that are guilty but hurt the entire school and the many athletes who were not part of the illegal activities.

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 3:12 am
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Tressel Will Not Walk Away

As I see the 2010 season and the last bowl game will be stricken from his overall record. In order to hasten the justice before 2011 kickoff the NCAA may elect not to dig up the previous seasons. He has done the same thing he did in the past at Youngstown State, so he will get a "Show Cause Order" the Coaches Death Penalty.

Ohio State will argue that the punishment should end with the coach and players. They will offer up the 5 and any other current players and their scholarships and accept a two year bowl ban. When NCAA accepts it the president and AD will be forced out also. The Big Ten will not give them a share of BCS money for 2 years, but otherwise keep quiet.

As many sports writer's are saying, his crime was in getting caught.

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Posted : June 1, 2011 3:44 am
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Tressel Will Not Walk Away

Can you explain the Show Cause Order. I've never heard of that before. So it keeps a coach from getting another job as a coach or such?

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 3:52 am
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Tressel Will Not Walk Away

I don't know what the "Show Cause Order" is, but I do know that Tressel is still required to stand in front of the NCAA Review Board (or whatever) in August and present his case, or lack thereof. He'll get some sort of banning by the NCAA from coaching for awhile probably, but he'll probably end up in the OSU fundraising department in some sort of manner. OSU protects their own. That's probably part of why he resigned without OSU having to pay out the remainder of his contract instead of waiting to be fired, at which point OSU would have had to pay him.

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 4:10 am
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The OSU compliance director is the last person at OSU who should be making deals for players and lying to the NCAA to cover it up. If the head coach and compliance director being involved doesn't show "institutional" complicity, then what does?

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 4:36 am
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Your probably right PSR. I don't know enough about how schools are organized. I figured the Compliance person was just a part of the sports programs and not part of the governing board of the school itself.

tOSU will continue to provide educations even without a football team if they get the Death Penalty but I just don't see it after the what happened to SMU when they got theirs.

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 5:03 am
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I doubt OSU gets the death penalty, as well, but I think this is going to run pretty deep. The NCAA seems to kowtoe to OSU, even allowing their star players to play in the bowl game, while staying their suspension for next season.

Supposedly, their starting QB (Terrel Pryor) showed up at the meeting where the coach resigned in a $40K sports car with dealer plates. I haven't seen it, but ESPN apparently has that on film. There is going to be alot of "investigative reporting" going on at OSU over the next year. I wouldn't be surprised if 1/2 the team is declared ineligible, but the NCAA acts so slowly that it will probably be 2015 before sanctions are issued.

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 5:16 am
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The pictures I saw of Terrel was he was in a paper tagged new Nissan Z car. If he had been smart he'd have taken the bus instead. That's like flaunting it.

 
Posted : June 1, 2011 5:24 am
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NCAA Show Cause Penalty

The NCAA "show-cause penalty" is an order saying that a coach involved in major rules violations at a university's athletic program may not be hired by any other NCAA member institutions without permission from the Infractions Committee for a set period of time. If a university seeks to hire such a coach, they must "show cause" as to why they should not be penalized for hiring him. Most schools will not even consider hiring a coach with a show-cause penalty in effect; hence the show-cause order effectively blacklists him from the collegiate coaching ranks for the duration of the penalty, and many coaches who are given such a penalty never coach again, even after the expiration of the penalty. The penalty is intended to follow a coach for violations that he had a role in committing.

Tressel would be the first football head coach to receive that penalty. To date only basketball and assistant football coaches have received it.

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Posted : June 1, 2011 6:08 pm
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NCAA Show Cause Penalty

Thanks for the info Paul. It's not looking good this morning for Ohio State. They are now reporting that the school itself lacked institutional control. That puts blame now on students-coaches and the school. The decision now hinges on whether the NCAA can prove that tOSU committed more infractions after last years sanctions. If that happens then that could kick in the death penalty. My gut tells me that tOSU will get hit really hard but not get the death penalty itself which bans any football program for at least a year. Athletes will transfer in droves and the program will be kaput for many years like what happened at SMU.

It's a shame that a big time program needs to resort to infractions to entice star players to sign to them. You would think the national spotlight and a real chance to get to the NFL and big money would be incentive enough and of course getting a free education to boot.

 
Posted : June 3, 2011 1:38 am
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Deral ?

I have not seen anything new yet today.

If the NCAA were aledging "lack of institutional cntrol" they would announce it.

It is my speculation that the president and AD will go for embarassing tOSU for failing to investigate the truth of Tressel's statements, but I think the NCAA ends with Tressel and the players. To go further could put an end to all college football.

Steve Spurrier has made some "stupid" recommendation that the coaches should pay players out of their own salary. I take it he has no understanding of employee rights and employer obligations. When the money comes, and it will come, it will be from gate receipts or more likely from TV revenue. Once Pandora's box is open, basketball is next in line. Then just wait for "Title 9" to kick in and they will be paying female volley ball players. Then the ACLU will sue so that illiterate players get a cut of the money. The SEC will file a "friend of the court brief" on the ACLU's behalf.

Right now though, the justice department is much too worried about the BCS pile of money and Utah not getting it's share.

Recent infractions are less important than unreported past infractions.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : June 3, 2011 4:35 am