Just in case any of you guys have missed it, there is no more field of endeavor called "surveying". I got this straight from the top: the architects, engineers and advertisers have decided that our field should be called "survey".
"Yes, he's involved in survey"
"I am head of survey".
"I really love survey".
architecture
engineering
survey
They've reduced us to just a verb, i.e. "get out there and work"
we don't even get a noun anymore like the rest of the professions...
Oh, I can explain this
> architecture
> engineering
> survey
>
> They've reduced us to just a verb, i.e. "get out there and work"
Actually, it is a verb as the architects and engineers conceive of things. It's a noun. What both the architect and the engineer want is a survey. The surveyor is sort of a useless appendage because he or she will often report problems that only get in the way of drawing up the plans for the project. :>
> Just in case any of you guys have missed it, there is no more field of endeavor called "surveying". I got this straight from the top: the architects, engineers and advertisers have decided that our field should be called "survey".
>
> "Yes, he's involved in survey"
>
> "I am head of survey".
>
> "I really love survey".
>
> architecture
> engineering
> survey
>
> They've reduced us to just a verb, i.e. "get out there and work"
>
> we don't even get a noun anymore like the rest of the professions...
Got a citation? Link?
Seriously, I'm curious.
Thanks Kent.
Ed, I was using hyperbole when I said I had it straight from the top; I know of no secret meeting that decided this, so there is no citation from the secret records of archs or eng'rs.
But if you read any of the magazines, you may notice this trend.
I've been seeing this for several years, and tonight I was reading PS mag and in the author's info it said that he "is involved in maritime survey around Florida's..."
Yes, I am weird for noticing things like this but it seems that, in the publishing world that:
architecture: noun, involves thinking
engineering: noun, involves thinking
survey: verb, no thinking, involves work
Oh, I can explain this
Hey, we can 'verb' them too.
Go architect me a solution.
Engineer me an answer. I want it by tomorrow.
And... I want some fries with that.
Try:
...engaged in maritime geomatics....
Bamboozlement factor +1
Wo ho ho....
😉
I am NOT making a political point, but isn't that what the right wing punditry have done to the Democratic Party by referring to it as the "Democrat Party"??
It's a way to marginalize a group with a quick backhand. Expect to see that often.
Andy
I get this all the time in my department (all engineers and techs, only one other surveyor, who is actually an engineer who sent in his boxtops), other departments within the City I work for, and from most of the private sector engineers/acrhitects.
I've just about given up trying to correct the problem. I do like the idea of returning the favor to those engineers/architects.
Engineers (noun) do, in fact, engineer (verb). No one knows what architects really do, though.
They're both draftsmen (architects and engineers that is). That is all they do, too if you want to reduce them to a verb, tell them to go draw (okay, call it draft) something. The surveyor surveys and drafts......
Many engineers always say "when I used to survey....". Often they did some kind of construction surveying if they did anything...and they think that is what the surveyor is all about.
