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(@jitterboogie)
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And here's another great job description requiring one year of GIS Technician experience or 15 hours of education in a university setting.....

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Knowledge: Some knowledge of the principles and practices of geometry; computer applications used to produce maps; GIS (Geographic Information System) principles; properties of maps including distance scales and legends; source documents used to create maps; maps utilized by the department to which the incumbent is assigned; source documents used to map layers or drawings.

Ability to: Input and access data using a personal computer; read and interpret land maps; read and interpret source documents; perform difficult mathematical calculations; give continuing and meticulous attention to detail; establish and maintain effective working relationships with those contacted in the course of business; perform repetitive motion such as using a computer keyboard and precision use of a mousing; perform complex drafting work under minimum supervision; explain complex systems and procedures; and interpret survey data, deed descriptions and related source documents to create accurate maps.

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The expectation of Entry Level seems to escape some HR departments like they really don't care what they are typing....

what is precision use of a 'mousing' anyway????? ???? ???? ???œ ???? ???? ?????ÿ

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Posted : June 20, 2021 5:48 am
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i would guess HR had left out the qualifier;?ÿ you can substitute three years of casual mousing, for one year of precision mousing.?ÿ I have no idea

 
Posted : June 20, 2021 7:48 am
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Mousing??ÿ Sounds kind of cheesy to me.

 
Posted : June 20, 2021 8:41 am
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

The expectation of Entry Level seems to escape some HR departments like they really don't care what they are typing...

To be fair...

This is 50% on the "management" of the department/division that has the opening either abdicating or not knowing what their management level job entails, and

50% on senior company "leadership" for failing to either hire the correct person to run their departments, or failing to provide the leadership and mentorship to allow them to excel in their role.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 4:16 am
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@james-fleming?ÿ

Fair. Most organizations are similar and the culture of hiring has gone way off the deep end.?ÿ

The HR department has become a protect the interests of the company by protecting it from the employees mentality.

IMNSHO

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 5:02 am
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@rj-schneider?ÿ

It used to be four years under a certified mouser, but they changed it to a four year degree in mousing prior to becoming a registered mouser. Savy? ?????ÿ

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 5:51 am
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A year of GIS tech experience and/or 15 hrs of GIS classes leaves most folk about as clueless as if they hadn't had any of it at all. I think "entry-level" accurately describes the poor person who would be applying for such a job.

That job description is unfortunate. Someone in HR just copy and pasted a veritable word salad of phrases to come up with whatever non-job this is supposed to describe. The best that can be hoped for is that you wind up with some clueless kid who doesn't fall asleep the first day and lose whatever lame stainless coffee mug they give them for showing up.

This would be terrifying if I still worked at a place that hired this type of culture.

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 6:43 am
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Then they ask:?ÿ What is your spirit animal?

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 6:57 am
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My humble and openly honest opinion is that anything entry level is someone who has no experience, a highschool diploma or GED, and is ready to learn.

Any other experience disqualifies entry level, esp if you have several years of anything.

Entry level neurosurgeon, has 8 years post highschool then a 7 year residency program. So I wonder how the HR people deal with that.....

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 7:01 am
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Minotaur!!!!!

 
Posted : June 21, 2021 7:02 am