This has to be Humorous and not Sports.
Steinbrenner knew zip about baseball. He hired Billy Martin 5 times, but only fired him 4 times, allowing him to resign once.
I guess he gets to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame for his record of paying the most millionaires not to play baseball.
Paul in PA
> This has to be Humorous and not Sports.
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> Steinbrenner knew zip about baseball. He hired Billy Martin 5 times, but only fired him 4 times, allowing him to resign once.
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> I guess he gets to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame for his record of paying the most millionaires not to play baseball.
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> Paul in PA
It's SPORTS!!! Cut it out!! :-@
Having met and known Billy Martin, it is humorous.
I wonder if his plaque will carry the aroma of Budweiser and make it more lifelike.:-X
Steinbrenner and Martin On Veterans Committee Ballot
Despite their battles with their players, coaches, and themselves, the two certainly had an impact on major league baseball in general.
Martin also managed 4 other teams (Twins, Tigers, Rangers, Athletics) and won several division championships, aside from his Yankee record.His overall record was 1253 wins and 1013 losses (0.553), winning 5 division championships, two pennants and one World Series.
One memorable game, Martin had two baserunners (Carew and Tony Oliva, I believe)
steal 2nd and 3rd base, and then on the next pitch, steal home and 3rd!
In his 37 years as owner, Steinbrenner's Yankees won 16 division titles,11 pennants and seven World Series titles.They were a bad team when he took over, having been out of the playoffs/World Series since 1964. In his first 23 seasons, he changed managers 20 times, and general managers 11 times. His original $10 million investment in the team has grown to a franchise worth $1.6 billion....certainly an achievment in any business.
Of course, Steinbrenner was suspended from baseball twice, and Martin had numerous brushes with the law (and was probably killed because he was driving drunk), but each had a unique devotion to the Yankees that defined them. And Steinbrenner's charitable works probably outweighed by far the awful things he did to his employees (to whom he often made it up anyway).
Others under consideration by the Vetrans Committee are Ron Guidry, Vida Blue, Dave Concepcion, Steve Garvey, Tommy John, Al Oliver, Ted Simmons and Rusty Staub, long-time general manager Pat Gillick and former union head Marvin Miller. There are many worthy candidates...I can't see where one could say Steinbrenner and Martin don't deserve to at least be considered alongside those mentioned.
Whitey!!!
Whitey Herzog, IMHO, was one of the best managers EVER. I think he already made the HOF last year. I remember reading something about it on my St. Louis Cardinals page and seeing pics of the old players (GO OZZIE!!) flying to where it is that they do this event and congratulating him, throwing a party, etc... Ahh I gotta get out of the 80's baseball era. 😐
Steinbrenner and Martin On Veterans Committee Ballot
Steinbrenner no.
Martin yes.
Marvin Miller yes.
Pat Gillick yes.
I don't think any of the players on the list should be in the HOF. Simmons might be the only one I'd think about, since he was a catcher.
