paden cash, post: 427172, member: 20 wrote: I guess our genetic family paths have crossed in the past Kent. Seems as though your ancestor William Brewster was a shipmate on the Mayflower with my 11th. great grandfather Thomas Williams. A twisted series of events, but my family tree come from his daughter's children. Williams made the voyage alone. His daughter died in England and her son eventually came to the continent at a later date. Williams himself perished the first or second winter at Plymouth. My records show a death of Feb. 1692. Hard to believe I descended from anyone with Puritanical fiber.
You figure they played a hand or two of cards?
There was a Thomas Williams on the Mayflower, but considering that he was baptized in 1582, a death date in 1692 would seem to be witchery.
Mrs. Cow has roots going back to the Mayflower as well. John Alden and Priscilla Mullins Alden are her 9th great grandparents. Of course, at that level of ancestry we have 1024 such couples.
Does it have to been 18 foot wide, I don't know if in the future you are planning on having a wider driveway, it looks like now being a single lane it's 9 or 10 foot wide. A 12 foot wide gate would cut down on cost and weight which would help with the sag issue if made out of wood.
eddycreek, post: 427045, member: 501 wrote: I've never seen a wooden gate 18' wide. Don't see how it would ever keep from sagging or drooping from the weight of the wood. If the hinges were mounted to a tall telephone pole type post with cabling to the top, and the gate made out of some lightweight lumber, maybe. Would still be hard to make it stay straight.
Maybe something like the first one here would work if the ground is level, post taller, and brace longer.
http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/device/devices8.htmlThe Divine Bovine might have something in mind.
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That rolling wheel on the end of the fence is pretty cool, and I happen to have an old steel wheelbarrow wheel that I could use...
MightyMoe, post: 426948, member: 700 wrote: Keeping vehicles out only, or animals also? You can have a more simple barrier gate if it's only for vehicles.
It's to keep vehicles out.
Somebody mentioned an old telephone pole might work, and I happen to have one of those available. I'm just trying to picture the support pole, and the brace. I do have to keep it under 6'.
Kent McMillan, post: 427171, member: 3 wrote: I think that the gate necessarily has to be divided into two parts. Two eight-foot gates swung posts inside the rock pillars would do admirably. The remaining aesthetic problems include how to somehow minimize the effect of the electric gate opener and its appurtenances that tend to spoil what is otherwise the period-correct effect of the gate, both coming and going. It may be that just painting the gate actuator and associated equipment with a color that doesn't shout "modernity" would be good enough. I'd have to see it on the ground to know for certain, though.
If I were to ask the spirit of my ancestor William Brewster, who stepped off the Mayflower in 1620 and after whom the town of Brewster, MA where foggyconcept resides, my guess would be that he would prefer something that did not appear to be the work of witches.
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To bad that "Elder" Brewster passed away so early. He never got to enjoy the house 😉 Elder died in 1644, ten years before this land was gifted to Elder's friend William Bradford.
Kent McMillan, post: 427189, member: 3 wrote: There was a Thomas Williams on the Mayflower, but considering that he was baptized in 1582, a death date in 1692 would seem to be witchery.
Also, if paden meant that he died in the first or second winter, then that would be 1621/22. (And his bones are in the mausoleum that shelters the "rock." The bones of the "secret" graveyard were discovered during a paving project and removed and placed in the mausoleum, according to local legend 🙂 )
I don't think the Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony) are the same as the Puritans (Massachusetts Bay Colony) and half the people on the Mayflour weren't religious, just paying customers.
How about something really cool? Design a mechanism to go straight up and down controlling a single substantial member to block auto traffic. When it is up, it is in position. When it is down, it goes into a groove in the driving surface such that the top is a hair below ground level and out of sight.
Dave Karoly, post: 427300, member: 94 wrote: I don't think the Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony) are the same as the Puritans (Massachusetts Bay Colony) and half the people on the Mayflour weren't religious, just paying customers.
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: Pilgrims were Puritans who had abandoned local parishes and formed small congregations of their own because the Church of England was not holy enough to meet their standards. They were labeled Separatists. Their desertion was an ecclesiastical insult to the king as head of the Anglican Church and a crime punishable by jail or death.
But there were genuine differences in how they viewed the world. The Pilgrim Saints were forgiving toward others. The Bay Colony Puritans believed in their God-given superiority and that they could do with New England as they pleased.
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Just a brief insight into the differences.
Dtp
I'm starting to wonder if the world would have been a better place if the Mayflower would have sunk.:scream:
That being said, I knew someone who lived with someone whose mother was a descendant of someone on the Mayflower. Mother was supposed to be a very educated and refined woman who married a dairy farmer of French Catholic descent in upstate NY and became a farmers wife with a lot of kids. The son received an old small handcrafted hand painters cabinet box from his mother that was a family heirloom. It had been brought over on the Mayflower. The son gave it to my friend as a gift. She kept some of her jewelry pieces in the box. It had the original patina. Years later, she moved and the box was stolen from her apartment in a break-in.
Probably for the jewelry and the box/cabinet was tossed out somewhere not knowing it's value.
Robert Hill, post: 427347, member: 378 wrote: I'm starting to wonder if the world would have been a better place if the Mayflower would have sunk.
I for one am glad that it didn't, and not just because I am a descendant of John & Priscilla.
I think we all owe those people a debt of gratitude that we can only repay by paying it forward. This I hope to do, even though I should be but a stepping stone to others in the perfromance of so great a work.
It was posted tongue in cheek. See emoji thingy.
But besides the typic colonialism sins and burning witches and other nefarious acts, I guess we should be thankful. After all, there wouldn't be Black Friday if there wasn't a Thanksgiving Day.
So you related to the Cow and Kent too?
John Thompson, post: 427444, member: 9631 wrote: I for one am glad that it didn't, and not just because I am a descendant of John & Priscilla.
I think we all owe those people a debt of gratitude that we can only repay by paying it forward. This I hope to do, even though I should be but a stepping stone to others in the perfromance of so great a work.
[USER=9631]@John Thompson[/USER]
Not me. My wife. What is an interesting coincidence is that her grandmother was born a Thompson and then married a descendant of John and Priscilla. Heck, maybe she's doubly related.
It's possible that some of my roots go back to Plymouth or the neighborhood. One side was in the Connecticut area and New York area in the late 1600's for sure. No idea when the first ancestor on that side arrived on this side of the pond.
No offense. Didn't mean to sound uptight or to hijack the thread. I wasn't sure who or what you meant by that.
I suppose we're all related if you go back far enough, but it's interesting to sometimes find out the connections are closer than we thought.
Holy Cow, post: 427450, member: 50 wrote: [USER=9631]@John Thompson[/USER]
Not me. My wife. What is an interesting coincidence is that her grandmother was born a Thompson and then married a descendant of John and Priscilla. Heck, maybe she's doubly related.
It's possible that some of my roots go back to Plymouth or the neighborhood. One side was in the Connecticut area and New York area in the late 1600's for sure. No idea when the first ancestor on that side arrived on this side of the pond.
Yea, I can imagine your ancestors burning Kent's ancestors at the stake.
Somebody had to do it.
[USER=155]@foggyidea[/USER]
In any event, regardless of whom made it over on the Mayflower, and you decide on a gate, check this out:
https://drivewayalert.com/system/deluxe-driveway-alertå¨-lr-system
Their alarm system surpasses anything on the market, and Dawn will love it. I've had one for years and it works flawlessly.:cool:
FL/GA PLS., post: 427463, member: 379 wrote: [USER=155]@foggyidea[/USER]
In any event, regardless of whom made it over on the Mayflower, and you decide on a gate, check this out:
https://drivewayalert.com/system/deluxe-driveway-alertå¨-lr-system
Their alarm system surpasses anything on the market, and Dawn will love it. I've had one for years and it works flawlessly.:cool:
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Thank's I have a couple of places I can use that! Since the property has been vacate for a couple of years it draws people from the herring run and cemetery. Lots of people visit both those spots. Plus, our driveway looks really inviting!! (and my neighbor told me that there are people who expect to be able to walk through, what will be, my front yard!)
