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Posted by david-livingstone on January 17, 2022 at 4:07 pmDoes anybody else belong to other forums that aren??t survey related and see surveying questions come up? I belong to a couple of tractor forums and see it come up a couple of times a year.
For example, it goes something like this. ?? I want to build a fence is there a phone app I can use? I know where the corners are but can??t see between them.? Someone always says sure, use the GIS, use Google Earth, phones are good to a couple of feet etc. Sometimes a post and tell them why that won??t work.
Every once in a while a boundary dispute will pop. Some of these will be a long saga that will last for years on the forum. One person won a lawsuit against his neighbor but then had trouble collecting. Just like in our world, these often seem to get ugly.
holy-cow replied 2 years, 3 months ago 10 Members · 12 Replies- 12 Replies
- Posted by: @david-livingstone
I know where the corners are but can??t see between them.
The low-tech solution to that is the 4-pole method of running a line. Much more accurate than phones, GIS, etc.
https://www.fao.org/3/R7021E/r7021e03.htm
. My intern hooked me up with reddit. There is a surveying community there. While browsing I saw a post by a “libertarian” that did not think surveyors should be allowed on the property others while performing work. Then I realized it was a different forum with a surveying themed discussion.
Historic Boundaries and Conservation Efforts@not-my-real-name in Ohio there??s no right of entry/trespass law, but law requires to survey to adjacent parcels. So you need permission unless for a state/federally funded project
Look up “Corner Crossing” on any hunting style forum. You’ll get arm-chair quarterbacks all over the place.
For those not in the know: this is crossing from a parcel of public land to another parcel of public land that are kitty corner to one another, when the opposite corners are privately owned. Like a red and black checker board.
Our trespass law prohibits going ‘over or on’ lands that even look like they belong to someone else. Thankfully we have right of entry for surveyors..
If you have to have a completed survey to know who’s land you are on, how do you know what land to survey before you complete the survey?
I was doing a survey in a nearby town. I had the police called on me because I set a traverse point in someone else??s yard by maybe a foot. They seemed pretty upset about it and I wasn??t sure it was over the line or on the property I was surveying. Illinois has right of entry and I told the police I would pull the traverse point before the day was over. They were right it was on their property but by the time I knew that it was a moot point.
- Posted by: @david-livingstone
Does anybody else belong to other forums that aren??t survey related and see surveying questions come up? I belong to a couple of tractor forums and see it come up a couple of times a year.
For example, it goes something like this. ?? I want to build a fence is there a phone app I can use? I know where the corners are but can??t see between them.? Someone always says sure, use the GIS, use Google Earth, phones are good to a couple of feet etc. Sometimes a post and tell them why that won??t work.
Every once in a while a boundary dispute will pop. Some of these will be a long saga that will last for years on the forum. One person won a lawsuit against his neighbor but then had trouble collecting. Just like in our world, these often seem to get ugly.
Everything happened somewhere. Few know how to find where that was.
- Posted by: @ppm
Look up “Corner Crossing” on any hunting style forum. You’ll get arm-chair quarterbacks all over the place.
For those not in the know: this is crossing from a parcel of public land to another parcel of public land that are kitty corner to one another, when the opposite corners are privately owned. Like a red and black checker board.
-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong. - Posted by: @david-livingstone
I was doing a survey in a nearby town. I had the police called on me because I set a traverse point in someone else??s yard by maybe a foot. They seemed pretty upset about it and I wasn??t sure it was over the line or on the property I was surveying. Illinois has right of entry and I told the police I would pull the traverse point before the day was over. They were right it was on their property but by the time I knew that it was a moot point.
Was staking clearing limits, and had a neighbor tell me I was on his property. I assured him I wasn’t. He said he would call the sheriff. I offered to call for him. He chose not to go that route.
-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong. Have my sheriff’s private cell number in my contact list on my cell phone. I’ve known him since he was 13 years old and was in my daughter’s class in school, have known both parents since we were all little kids and all of his grandparents for longer than that. Knew one set of his great-grandparents.
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