NATRF2022
The last update I heard suggested we would begin to see parts of the new datum this summer. Labor Day is Monday, and the updates have dried up. Has anyone seen or heard anything?
I will try and get some links for you this weekend if no one has before then. But they had released a while back a beta site that allowed you to actually see what the coordinates and other things were like in each zone state etc. I think they had a webinar this week on certain areas as well. I have been to busy to stay on top of it like I usually am. Trying to focus on Boundary and being mentored now by a LS teaching me how to check plats from a LS perspective at the same time teaching crews how to use gps and streamline work flows from field to office. So my brain is fried LOL. It’s a different mindset of finding discrepancy and telling a LS vs now making the decision and marking up a play to tell cad tech exactly what changes need to be made. I am having fun though.
My sources say 2031
I think by end of this year and mid next year we could be working on the new system. Now all the tools will not be ready all at once so they will trickle out over time. That’s what I remember from the FIG conference. Of course the Fed notice paper trail for approval is another thing. I know I have already looked at the coordinates for north and south zone here. I also could look at the distortion in different areas of the state in those projections. I asked the wife a few moments ago and she said I should watch the webinar. Well they had one today and I will now have to wait until they post it. lol. I usually listen in on them. But to busy lately.
Mr. OK,
We had an Oregon Administrative Rules steering committee meeting for the NATRF2022 / Oregon Coordinate Reference System in July. The purpose of the to discuss the minor tweaks in the OCRS that will need to be updated in the OAR prior to full implementation of the new coordinate system. Our timeline is to have the revised OAR in place sometime in Q2/3 of next year to be ready for full implementation by 2026. As I recall, NATRF2022 (why not 2025 at this point) will have some availability next summer.
NGS has been talking about the 2022 datum (where it was originally called an earlier date) for at least 8 years. So maybe 2030? Lol!!
Kind of an old thread, but here is the most recent update, published in the Federal Register.
https://www.federalregister.gov/d/2024-23347
If you don't want to have to click, I copy/pasted the most important info below.
The following details outline the process for the rollout of the modernized NSRS:
- NGS plans to roll out components of the modernized NSRS in 2025 or 2026. As each component is released atbeta.ngs.noaa.gov,
it can be publicly tested with feedback provided to NGS. The testing will continue for at least six months after the final component is released on
beta.ngs.noaa.gov.
- While the modernized NSRS is being rolled out and tested, the current NSRS will remain the official NSRS of the United States. The official NSRS (i.e.,
currently NAD 83, NAVD 88, etc.) may be found at
geodesy.noaa.gov.
Only one major improvement to the current NSRS is expected during this time: ITRF2020 will be integrated in all products and services.
- Once testing is complete, and all modernized NSRS components appear to be stable and correct, the Federal Geodetic Control Subcommittee (FGCS) will be asked to vote to approve the modernized NSRS (likely in 2026). If FGCS approves the modernized NSRS, NGS will publish an FRN announcing the approval of the modernized NSRS and begin a several-month process of transitioning all modernized NSRS components to the official website atgeodesy.noaa.gov.
During this transition, the beta website may be wiped of submitted data and no further submissions to the NGS IDB (the repository for the current NSRS) will be allowed.
Thanks for the update, Jeff. I have mentioned to some federal clients that they might want to consider doing upcoming mapping in the new datums, but no one is interested. I get it, nothing is official and approved yet, but it seems like it would be a way to make the products more useful going forward. Especially where they are not trying to match or update an existing product (like Merbok).
There's always the possibility that people find bugs during the beta test that might cause headaches for people that had started using it for real, but I'm guessing the chance of that is low.
I an already setting up a workflow to be able to test the new datum and software. I will sometimes be doing double work but I can have fun at night doing the new datum checks with the same raw data from different jobs. I am waiting to get all the datum definitions and all and if Trimble does not release it early enough I can just build it myself and test. Right now I am to swamped though but I see light at the end of the tunnel for sure.
