I bought a new Jeep Grand Cherokee (first bought one in 2011, then 2016, and now 2022) this past summer. One super annoying feature in the new one is that if you get out of the vehicle with the key fob in your pocket and the vehicle is running, it will honk the horn three times. LOUD. The type of surveying I usually do is Trimble access observed control point on Lidar and imagery control points. Pull up, observe twice for three minutes, then move on. So of course I don't shut off the engine, especially when it is real hot or cold outside.?ÿ
I rented a ford explorer last week, same feature. No way to disable it via the setup. Come out of the hotel at 6 AM everyday last week, start it up (cold weather), then get out to load my stuff and get the vehicle setup for the days work. BEEP-BEEP-BEEP. And when I am out working, I really don't want to talk to people asking me what I am doing, etc. So I try to keep a low profile and remember to leave the key fob inside the vehicle. But that isn't really a good idea either, although supposedly I cannot lock the jeep with the key fob inside (unless I use the app on my phone).?ÿ
I guess they did this because they were sued over people pulling into their garage, leaving the vehicle running (quiet) and then going inside and dying of CO poisoning. Mostly older folks, I guess.?ÿ
But there should be a way to disable this. For the kind of work I do (in and out of the vehicle all day with it running), it would make me NOT buy another one.?ÿ
I've used an F150 at work several different times and after driving them for a while now there's is a zero percent chance I'd buy one of these annoying trucks for myself.?ÿ The steering wheel tries to correct to the center, the brake and gas pedals are way too touchy, if I pair my phone with the dash it completely stops my phone from making the chimes that it normally makes when I receive notifications.?ÿ And last but not least, it automatically locks the doors and tailgate when I put it in drive but doesn't automatically unlock them when I put it on park.?ÿ This stupidity alone makes me want to put this piece of garbage in neutral and roll it off a cliff!
My brain no longer functions well with any new technology. It goes into "shutdown" mode whenever I encounter it!
We have an older Ford Focus that has what I consider irrational behavior on the alarm. If you lock the door with the key (yes it's that old) then everything is fine.?ÿ If you lock it with the inside button or the fob, then using the key to unlock the door (so I don't have to carry another fob) sets off the alarm.
It's the key to the car, why isn't it allowed to be used?
My Jeep does that too.?ÿ I hate it.?ÿ One good thing is if you try to lock the key fob in the car it won't let you...it gets all upset with the horn and stuff.
Another peeve is not being able to open the door while the vehicle is in gear.?ÿ Lots of times (on rural roads) I used to like to open the door for a look-see as I idled past a corner in an intersection.?ÿ Can't do that anymore.?ÿ
I just tried something that appears to work...I put the second key fob in the glove box. I can get out with the engine running and no honk. I can get out with the car shut off and using the first key fob I can lock the door.?ÿ
Not ideal, I would rather have the second key FOB at home, but it does seem to work OK.?ÿ
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There is a device you can buy that connects to the OBD2 port...
https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_tzr/#security-bypass-modules
apparently it can reprogram a lot of stuff, and one is called KILL3Honk, but that device costs about $200. Also, I read that if Jeep dealers finds that attached to the port, it voids the warranty.?ÿ
I guess another option is remove the horn fuse, but then you have no horn. I very rarely use the horn but sometimes you definitely need it.?ÿ
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Our 2019 Acura RDX has the now-standard (I think) feature of shutting off the engine whenever the car comes to a stop, then auto-starting when you let off the brake.?ÿ In some circumstances that's fine and saves both gas and emissions, but most of the time it's a nuisance and works the starting system awfully hard.?ÿ There's a convenient button that turns the feature off, but -- and here's the rub -- there's no way to make that setting persistent.?ÿ Every time the car is started you have to hit that button again to disable the auto-shutoff.?ÿ Grrrrr...
@jim-frame You should be able to order a bypass harness on Amazon that simply plugs in to your OBDII port to help with this.?ÿ It remembers your last setting when the engine was shut off.?ÿ I got one of these for my jeep.?ÿ Doesn't effect warranty and easy to remove if you want to.
@jim-frame Same with my Jeep. The sales rep even pointed that out, said many people have requested that it remember that setting, but it doesn't. Putting it in park, however, keeps it running. Three of my four vehicles now have the start/stop feature. Probably they need to have a bigger battery to do that?
That start stop is all EPA driven, never mind the miniscule fuel saved is going to be way offset by more frequent starts and batteries that the owner has to pay for.
SHG
The new Ford Transit van I'm working out of will lock all but the drivers door about two minutes after turning the key off, so if I wait too long to walk around to the back or side door to pull any equipment out I will have to make a return trip to hit the unlock button. My other gripe is that it defaults every start up to lane assist where the steering wheel starts having epileptic fits if dare get too close the road paint lines.
All of these stories make me want to keep my older vehicles functional at least as long as I am.
I'm starting to feel like the 95 year-old geezer when a salesman tries to sell him new roofing material guaranteed to last for 20 years or more.?ÿ I don't give two hoots and a holler about whether the next resident gets a drop of water on their head.
In a related story, while doing my Santa Claus thing for a couple hundred kids last night, one boy about 8 years old said all he wanted was a watch.?ÿ I almost asked him if he had ever seen a watch but stopped in the Nick of time (pun intended).
My Hyundai Santa Cruz just yells at me when I do some of that stuff,
no steering wheel stutter, just has an alarm tone and blinking light.
no horn honking when i step away, just a steady tone that goes off for a few seconds
Mine doesn't, but the wife's Tucson has the turn off/start up at traffic light feature, but it can be turned off, just have to remember to do it.
If I get a text on my phone, I do get the sound through the audio system.
Only thing I really don't care for is that if need the extra space in the back seat by putting the seat bottom up, there's molded storage compartments, one has the jack and the other will only hold a few small items and really doesn't give any additional room.
The back seats also seem to have not a lot of leg room, but the specs say that it has at least an inch more than the Maverick, Tacoma and other like sized trucks.
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Overall I'm happy with it, I get about 22 mpg around town, and have gotten almost 30 on the open road. Since its built on the Santa Fe chassis, it rides like an SUV, not like a truck.?ÿ
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Can't do that anymore.?ÿ
The windows don't roll down either? ?????ÿ
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