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I concur !
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Unless you are going to put plaster on it it is not lath. I really don’t know who caused the proliferation of this term used by surveyors to describe a stake. It is otherwise known as a stake, and I have never heard a non-surveyor speak of it as lath. Is it some sort of lingo?Here in Ontario Canada I had never heard anyone refer to lath. Same thing with “hubs”. We set “wood stakes” in the ground for many different things, excavation, grades, marking up corners, 3 stakes around a control point. If we’re setting corners for foundation layout it’s nails or rebar in the ground. Control points are either a 6 or 8″ nail in the ground or possibly rebar (if there is enough ground before hitting rock which is rare). Magnails if it’s going on concrete or asphalt.
Sometimes it’s confusing because the lingo and methods are so much different depending on the region. I helped my neighbor layout a building on his property and I finally realized what a “batter board” was.
One lingo we share with the US is calling the robot “the gun” but I try to avoid using that for the sake of people passing by.
We had nicknamed our old Leica robot Eva. The s5 that replaced it is called “that schizophrenic yellow thing”.
Australians have a nicer word for it “a Jigga”. Also “a ute” for a pickup.
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@norman-oklahoma doesn’t this break when poundign them into the ground? So if lath is used, no stakes are used for the actual point?
Sometimes they break, especially if you get one with a knot in it. The pine lath shatters the worst; I don’t think I’ve ever had a hardwood lath shatter on me.
Around here you’d pound a 2″ x 2″ x 6″ (I like 1″ x 1″ x 8″) stake (we call them hubs) into the ground for the actual point and then the lath would be pounded in a few inches behind it with writing on it to describe what the hub is, or cuts/fills/offsets, etc.
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I think all these things discussed are stakes. The term is a general category of items put vertical in the ground. Wood stakes in particular here, as stakes can be metal also.
A particular size piece of wood which can be used as a stake is sold under the name wood lath. The size was originated as a base for plastered walls and ceilings. There is now also a metal lath for plastering that doesn’t look anything like the wood.
Hubs are a particular class of stake that are usually relatively short and larger cross section, that are used for the purpose of establishing a point or elevation.
Stob is a term used in some areas, and is somewhat like a hub.
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In terms of reducing obfuscation when relating to my clients, I prefer to use language that I am sure they will understand. While it is obvious that surveyors have their own terminology regarding marks they have made, the client is the person to consider when communicating. Especially if those clients have learned English as a second language, and are unfamiliar with colloquialisms.
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Guys here call the 1″ x 1″ x 6″ or 1″ x 1″ x 8″ “ginnies” (sounds kinda like guinea in guinea pig) which I had never heard of. But lath has been universal in all the places I’ve lived.
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They’re, there, their. Knew, new, gnu
They are all wood products that serve our needs no matter the name we hear them called. We rarely install much wood in our boundary work. We do use lath (photo by Norman) with a pointed end and flagging to provide longer term and taller identification of key points at times rather than the standard pin flag. They are quite handy for writing on for specific purposes. And, when everyone is getting a bit silly, they make excellent dueling weapons. They can be used as a bat with a pebble being used for a ball when the crew chief is spending 20 minutes on his calculator before you are being turned loose to finish the job per his calculations.
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Dundee: “Now thats a Lath”
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Stake, Hub or Lath. How do you communicate between crew members which one, if you call them all stakes? Fat stake, thin stake, square stake. I only set lath on construction sites where the ground has already been disturbed. You have plenty of room for multiply cut and fill instructions, or multiple offset information.
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Wow! Saved the bar from getting knocked all screwy.
Reminds me of the day we set several bars then a tornado ripped through that exact spot a couple of hours later. We finally found the last bar we had set in a nearly identical position, but we had to fight through the twisted limbs to get to it. The tree was resting no more than six inches above the cap on the bar.
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It’s called lath on the bill sent to me.
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If you put a stake/lath beside a hub is it considered a witness stake/lath?
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I would call it a witness. Again, for the benefit of my client’s understanding, I would explain the survey terminology of that particular use of the word. My objective is to help my client, not to speak like other surveyors.
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My concern is whether or not my client understands.
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When I use the term “witness” I am referring to something that will endure at a listed distance (sometimes bearing, too) from the true monument. Or to where I would set a monument if that was possible.
A piece of lath next to a monument is the same as a wire flag or a length of flagging tied on a limb directly above the monument. It is a guide. Nothing more.
About a month ago a male Boer goat arrived and decided that lath had invaded his territory. He didn’t know what it was, but, it had to go. He pushed at it with his head and then his body. Within a couple of minutes he had leveled it.
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If you buy string, and proceed to tie knots with the string, is the result knots or just more string?
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The real question here is how many of you guys are gnashing your teeth or biting your lips trying to keep from calling that piece of wood a LATHE?
That word has not shown up in any of the posts in this thread.
Come on. One of you has to have the balls to throw that out there.
JA, PLS, SoCal
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Yes, all the time. If you are going to be word-perfect, then you at least know the meaning. Right? Surprising to not have seen it in this thread yet.
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