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(@beer-legs)
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Ulysses?? Sounds like they stuck a Civil War hero in there. Like they did in Sequoia National Park...and a lot of other places...

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:10 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Incidentally the Sacramento County maps can be found on-line now. Some guy has a bunch of stuff on a private website. E-mail me if you want the address (it isn't published as far as I know).

I have the CDs up through 2008 but he has them all up there which means I don't have to purchase the CDs anymore.

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:22 pm
(@steve-gardner)
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I've been going to that Bel Air market since you guys were in diapers. It was one of the first up-scale markets in the North Area of Sacto. We'd walk up there from my house down by El Camino High School. There was a laundromat kitty-corner from it where we could buy cigarettes in a machine for 35 cents and a novelty store across the street that had all the cool wax lips and taffy and stuff that nerdy 6th-graders love, can't remember the name of it now. The Garden of the Gods was one step above my Del Paso Manor neighborhood on the social scale, looking back on it, but I don't remember it mattering much until later.

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:32 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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I've looked for Bells and Air in there but have never found them.

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:34 pm
(@steve-gardner)
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Aisle 9, middle shelf, halfway down, next to the Near Beer.

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:40 pm
(@jim-frame)
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> I've been going to that Bel Air market since you guys were in diapers.

When I was in diapers, you were too. (04/30/53 here.)

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:44 pm
(@steve-gardner)
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Sorry, Jim

I didn't mean to imply you were in diapers until you were 12. You look pretty spry for an old codger. Anyway, this has been fun but for some reason the facebook, googe-analytics, fcbdn stuff is bogging me down to a crawl here so I'm gonna go do something else.

 
Posted : April 8, 2011 7:57 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Tom Silva has a pretty good video at the link:
Tom Silva video

I don't plan on following that exactly. Simpson Strong Tie has a bunch of PDF files on their website explaining how to build a strong and safe deck. Obviously Simpson is selling metal connectors so it may be overkill. One thing they suggest is not doing the notch style stair stringer but rather use tread angles so that the gap between the top of the stringer and the bottom of the bottom rail is 4" as required by code. The traditional notched stringer may have too large a gap per code.

Simpson Strong Tie deck fastener guide

 
Posted : April 9, 2011 6:59 pm
(@holy-cow)
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Construct it freestanding and with no physical connections to the house or concrete, just make it heavy enough to stay put. No need for a bulding permit and not taxable as a house addition. It's merely a portable set of stairs that could be used anywhere.

 
Posted : April 10, 2011 11:59 am
(@clearcut)
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railing

Dave,
the hand rail and 4" min openings are only required if the total drop is over 30". Can't tell for sure, but looks like your drop is less than that.

 
Posted : April 10, 2011 7:32 pm
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