Working at an Engineering firm with "drama"

I haven't noticed crazy turnover at those places that I've worked at, but the fragile egos are certainly real.

Work for yourself: it's liberating.

Leadership. Many great engineers and great surveyors. While management skills have been taught and developed they have muddled the waters and exchanged or tried to intertwine that with calling it Leadership. That’s what is lacking today. It’s not just in our profession but all through out our country. We see it at every level. Unfortunately while Leadership traits and principles can be taught to a certain degree. Leadership is not academic and that person that might be the lowest in the chain might be the true leader. That can be both good or bad. A bad leader can influence in the wrong direction just as well as the good leader can lead in a positive way.

That is so true. I just wish I could in this business. But I am not there yet.

I do that too. The money is good here, otherwise I'd probably move on

Yes, that's what I'm experiencing, a lot of egos!

Yes very true. Today's method is known as "Leading from behind"

At this point, I'm just getting licensed So I can wear the T-shirt that says"

I'm a land surveyor because engineers need heros too"

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I've been around the block(all at engineering/surveying offices with 1 exception) a bit in my career and can't say i worked anywhere that has had a crazy amount of turnover, but I knew/know of a few. It all boils down to Leadership and Management, If those fail, the pieces below them cannot be structured correctly.

I've worked in several mid to large sized engineering and surveying companies. It's almost impossible to assemble 30 to 100 people or more under one roof and have a drama free environment between gossip and inflated egos. There was only one firm that I ever worked for that had a relatively large turnover rate and that was because upper level management was all about tracking project cost/profit numbers without the slightest clue of what it takes to get the work done.

I never listened to or followed the drama but I did land with one nationwide company as a department head. When I was handed a copy of the contract and my budget to survey a 250 acre farm, 75 miles from the office and had $2,500 to survey the property, cut out a lease parcel and topo the lease parcel, do the resolution, drafting and descriptions, I questioned where the numbers came from and was told that the project engineer came up with my budget and that I would just have to deal with it. After hearing that, I spoke to the VP of the company about the pricing and he didn't want to hear it so I quit on the spot.

The best part of working for yourself is that you can pick any 80 hours of the week you want to work.

Truth,

I'm sitting in DK visiting my wife's family & doing the paperwork I've fallen behind on over the last 6 months.