Had a call yesterday from a past client that had a survey done at the beginning of the current century. Not signed by me or anyone I have met. But, the owner of the property is the same person, and they had a survey on their boundary that disagreed with the survey. Since I was talking to a client that had relied on good faith with a survey that has our company's name on it, I was glad that she called me.
I was happy to review the surveys and offer some guidance and do a bit of a "gut check" on our work. (The new survey ignored multiple monuments set by multiple surveyors over decades of work in that plat...but the math is perfect...)?ÿ
So, I called the surveyor...(What is North?...well if ALL the surveys over 50 years consider North = Along section line, then the old survey is great. If North means N00-00-00.0000E, then the 2005 survey is incorrect...) Surveyor is out of town, probably hasn't ever heard of the various surveyors in the area...
So then I get a call from the lawyer, basically demanding that I (in his words) "defend the survey". I explained that I would be willing to do a new survey, retracing the two surveys and make an independent expert opinion, but the cost of the survey would need to be covered by his client.?ÿ
I still do not understand how the new surveyor didn't call me and the other surveyors BEFORE recording. If I found I disagreed with a number of local surveyors, I would be calling.
But, this also leaves me very grateful for a gentleman in our office that is invaluable. He knows everyone, and all the old surveyors, AND their reputations. I am so blessed that he works with me.
Anyway...I get the Ring Ring, but wish I had gotten a ring ring before, when all of this could have been avoided.
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Makes you wonder if it’s ignorance, arrogance or a combination of both.
THIS is why we get paid the big bucks. If everything we do was easy and the average layperson could fully understand all of it, there would be no need for our profession to exist. Sifting the wheat from the chaff.
THIS is why we get paid the big bucks. If everything we do was easy and the average layperson could fully understand all of it, there would be no need for our profession to exist. Sifting the wheat from the chaff.
Obviously this Gen Z surveyor isn’t making enough to afford phone call. Lol
We encounter this type of thing routinely when a surveyor from Timbuktu tears up to the job site, waves a magic stick around a bit where he assumes there might be a section corner marker for a "set nail above metal detector signal", then decides north is whatever his software says is north and slaps down a tract for installation of a wind turbine or cell tower or something similar, has his software create a description and then emails that to someone who will pass it along. Then he roars off into the sunset in search of his eighth location of the day.
You know something is wrong when all the math is perfect but makes no attempt to reconcile the existing corners.
I mean...don't these come into play quite often no matter which state/territory you're working in? I would be hard pressed to "ignore" found monuments, especially those shown on previous surveys.
Some surveyors feel it's their place to reinvent the wheel...
We encounter this type of thing routinely when a surveyor from Timbuktu tears up to the job site, waves a magic stick around a bit where he assumes there might be a section corner marker for a "set nail above metal detector signal", then decides north is whatever his software says is north and slaps down a tract for installation of a wind turbine or cell tower or something similar, has his software create a description and then emails that to someone who will pass it along. Then he roars off into the sunset in search of his eighth location of the day.
I think I the 90s this was called a Seagull management approach, fly in sqawk a lot, $#it all over everything and then fly away.
Also associated with the practice of Blame storming.
