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Riparian
Posted by ddsm on July 5, 2010 at 1:54 amFast Accretion and Slow Avulsion…
It depends on the timing…
DDSM
ddsm replied 14 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 17 Replies -
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I knew that would get a response…
Keep your eyes on BOTH overhead projectors…
DDSM
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“Fast Accretion and Slow Avulsion…”
Not sure what you mean, Dan, title is gained by accretion, which must be slow, but lost by avultion (very fast).
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Fast accretion…the river jumps up…the banks cave…(OVER NIGHT…I SAW IT HAPPEN) dirt turns into silt…washes down stream…builds up against MY land…I own this accretion…
Slow avulsion…over a number of years…a chute cut forms…back behind my cabin on the river…every year it cuts deeper…until one time (SLOW AND IMPERCEPTIBLE)…the river is behind my cabin…but I can still identify my cabin…my land…I still own the land…
Like Chris said…It depends…
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Not to mention COE permanent easements or FEMA floodways…
recreation navigability…
…or them damn canoes…
DDSM
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Dan “Fast accretion…the river jumps up…the banks cave…(OVER NIGHT…I SAW IT HAPPEN)”
is NOT ACCRETION, reliction maybe
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lol…it settled on the my bank fast enough…that accretion was pretty fast…
DDSM
(the banks caving would be FAST Erosion) -
Jonny
It was almost an inside joke between me and Chris…
We spent a week with James Simpson and Jerry Knight…40 hours of the best of the best…two overhead projectors and a lot of power point…
Fast Accretion and Slow Avulsion…
River and Lake Boundaries…James Simpson
and Johnny Cash…How High is the the Water, Momma…
DDSM
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thought you were joking
because thats backwards….
“Accretion is the gradual and imperceptible addition of land to a parcel by the natural deposition of water borne sediments. It is the slow increase in one’s land occurring grain by grain. Reliction, which is the uncovering of submerged land by the recession of water, is legally treated as accretion even though the process is different.”
http://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/factsht/accretion.pdf
cheers, happy 4th
3 cats to ya
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thought you were joking
Think about it…accretion is the inability to recognize the silt…either fast or slow…
“My land washed away…it went downstream over night”…
“But it settled on me…but you can identify each grain as yours”…
Fast Accretion…
Avulsion is rapid???
“I’ve lived here on this river all my life…I planted a garden…built a cabin”…
Over years and years…a chute cut behind my land…a point bar…deeper and deeper…slowly and imperceptually…the river changes course…a SLOW AVULSION…
I still own the cabin…the garden…and all of the fast accretion…
DDSM
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thought you were joking
the key words in the definition are “gradual and imperceptible”
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thought you were joking
which definition?
DDSM
(hold my beer and watch this…:beer: )Slow Avulsion?
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thought you were joking
I’m not playing this game anymore, happy 4th
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thought you were joking
the “imperceptible” part pertains to the ability to identify the ‘land’.
If it washes off of you and settles onto me…and neither can identify it…weather it happens fast or slow…that is accretion/erosion…the boundary moves…
If it happens fast or slow…but we can still identify the land…remember the garden and cabin?…it is avulsion…and the boundary remains fixed…
Therefore…ergo…and therewith…(hold my beer and watch this)…
Fast Accretion and Slow Avulsion.
DDSM
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I’m getting low on cats
I’m down to the two I’m holding, Dan (see pic) that was three years ago and now they are freakin science fiction cats (3′ long 16 lbs and SKINNY) so here ya go….
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I’m getting low on cats
I know what ya sayin’ Jon…Me and Steve Corley used to hunt Unicorns…but I got too old and he out grew it…
Have a good 4th Brother…
DDSM
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