Never noticed this before

[johnbo]

Some Master Title Plats are drawn from GCDB numbers.

[rankin_file]

Ehemmmm….didn’t someone ask you that yesterday?

[rankin_file]

So which plat are you going to “protect”?

[loyal]

Wow…that IS bizarre!

I think that [Fast] Eddy pulled a “fast one” on that Township.

The USGS generated a 30′ Quad of the area based on filed work in 1898 & 1909 (Edition of 1909 & another in 1911).

The West å? of Section 23 is the ONLY “found” Corner in the interior of that entire Township…although there are a few on the exterior lines.

You ought to take a look at that Quad, the USGS had a somewhat different GUESS as to what the outline of those particular Sections MIGHT be. Of course that is NOT going to change anything.

Considering that the Original Survey was [supposedly] done in 1880, and the USGS folks were on the ground less that 20 years later, the fact that the USGS couldn’t find more corners in the area is NOT a good sign. If “fast” Eddy put all the corners in, they must really be scattered around the landscape.

How many Stones have you turned up so far?

Loyal

[johnbo]

I had the “pleasure” of subdividing a township that didn’t have the section lines drawn on the quad. When you look at the quad its
obvious why. There is an extra 3/4, 60 chains, of a mile in the S bdy. We laid out topo calls on tracing paper at the scale of the quad. Laid that over the quad looking for any matches. Found a few but never turned up any corners. Looks like the fd. corner falls along side a trail, maybe the original surveyor used the trail to sprinkle corners throughout the township. I would give any corner alongside a trail a good hard look. GOOD LUCK

[MightyMoe]

Loyal, post: 352431, member: 228 wrote: Wow…that IS bizarre!

I think that [Fast] Eddy pulled a “fast one” on that Township.

The USGS generated a 30′ Quad of the area based on filed work in 1898 & 1909 (Edition of 1909 & another in 1911).

The West å? of Section 23 is the ONLY “found” Corner in the interior of that entire Township…although there are a few on the exterior lines.

You ought to take a look at that Quad, the USGS had a somewhat different GUESS as to what the outline of those particular Sections MIGHT be. Of course that is NOT going to change anything.

Considering that the Original Survey was [supposedly] done in 1880, and the USGS folks were on the ground less that 20 years later, the fact that the USGS couldn’t find more corners in the area is NOT a good sign. If “fast” Eddy put all the corners in, they must really be scattered around the landscape.

How many Stones have you turned up so far?

Loyal

The township is about as complete with originals as it gets with these 1880 surveys. The MT plat was a surprise since the BLM is doing a dependent resurvey and I got excited cause I’ve been waiting years to stake line in Section 5 but wanted them to finish first. But no, they haven’t released it yet, they are still pondering it. It may set a record between the date on the caps and the date on the plat.

My W1/4 for section 23 is 600 some feet west of what the MT plat shows and is based on a 1930 survey which found a stone at a fence corner which is where my cap is now.

Then there were two competing 1970’s era ones, one where I am, and one near a midpoint where a surveyor found a stone with a faint 1/4 and remarked it or “enhanced” it…………

So I figured since two surveyors like one point, and only one liked the other he was outvoted…….:whistle:

I think johnbo is correct, the MT plat must be the GCDB, haven’t looked into that, I don’t pay any attention to the GCDB, gave up on it many years ago.

I did look at some other odd looking sections in the area and the MT plat isn’t reflecting those distortions.

[MightyMoe]

Loyal, post: 352431, member: 228 wrote: Wow…that IS bizarre!

I think that [Fast] Eddy pulled a “fast one” on that Township.

The USGS generated a 30′ Quad of the area based on filed work in 1898 & 1909 (Edition of 1909 & another in 1911).

The West å? of Section 23 is the ONLY “found” Corner in the interior of that entire Township…although there are a few on the exterior lines.

You ought to take a look at that Quad, the USGS had a somewhat different GUESS as to what the outline of those particular Sections MIGHT be. Of course that is NOT going to change anything.

Considering that the Original Survey was [supposedly] done in 1880, and the USGS folks were on the ground less that 20 years later, the fact that the USGS couldn’t find more corners in the area is NOT a good sign. If “fast” Eddy put all the corners in, they must really be scattered around the landscape.

How many Stones have you turned up so far?

Loyal

As an aside, I will say that fast Eddie did spend lots of time doing this one, Nov2-8, seven days. There is no question that he was there at every spot. Just didn’t measure very well

[dave-karoly]

I’m working on a messed up Section 23 right now. The original is reasonably square in steep timberland.

GLO=Isaac Chapman, 1867
Caspar Lumber Company=Gorlinski, 1894 subdivided section, evidence still exists.

Many Deeds were described from the 1894 Survey.

In 1979 a local private surveyor took it upon himself to resubdivide the Section moving the southeast 1/16th corner northwesterly 80′. Partly this was based on moving the east quarter corner northerly to conform to some sketchy river calls. Gorlinski did not find the east quarter and single proportioned it. He also single proportioned the southeast section corner north-south but no one is disputing that corner.

Mr. 1979 disturbed a lot of settled boundaries without authorization from the owners. He is deceased so we can’t whip him with his chain.

[MightyMoe]

Rankin_File, post: 352427, member: 101 wrote: So which plat are you going to “protect”?

That’s easy, the original Plat of course