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Hello everyone! Looking to get into residential surveying
Posted by SCarolina on February 11, 2019 at 1:13 amHey guys,
Ever since I purchased my first house and had to hire a surveyor, I’ve been interested in possibly doing this myself. The thought of working outside on own without someone micromanaging me every 15 minutes is very appealing to me. I would love to learn more about residential surveying and how I can get started. Main questions are there specific books you guys recommend I pick up? My second question what it the best way to get experience? My initial thought was to contact companies around my area and see if I can get some part time work on the weekends as an entry level survey crew member. I wouldn’t be able to do this full time since the entry level positions are around 24-30k a year which would be hard to survive off of so I would need to keep my regular office job till I’m skilled enough to be a survey crew member or knowledgable enough to start my own surveying business. Thanks for your help!
duane-frymire replied 5 years, 8 months ago 13 Members · 20 Replies -
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I am from Ohio and not an expert on Professional Land Surveying in your state, your profile indicates that is South Carolina. You should verify the information provided below with a local Professional Surveyor.
A few minutes research provided me with links to the South Carolina State Board of Registration for Professional Engineers and Surveyors. That site provides information on Professional Surveyor license requirements. I believe that running your own surveying business will require you to qualify for a Professional Surveying “TIER A” license.
The Laws and Policies link at right of the above page includes a link to “Engineers & Surveyors Statute (Effective March 2018)” the current law. That link opens a 23 page pdf file containing the license requirements. The definitions section makes clear the difference between TIER A and TIER B licenses. The section that defines the TIER A requirements is on page 14, “SECTION 40-22-225. Eligibility requirements for license as surveyor.” As I read this the requirement is a very specific four year college degree, two examinations and four years of experience under the supervision of a currently licensed Professional Surveyor.
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Welcome, it is always good to see interest in our profession. I will begin by agreeing with Dallas, begin by knowing what the qualifications are for your state. Now, that being said, you do not need to have a license to become a “surveyor” but you do to become a “Surveyor”. Our profession is unique among the technical professions and is truly a combination of many disciplines. Among others, to be a competent Surveyor, you must be a historian, lawyer, communicator, student, problem solver, mediator, engineer, etc. the list goes on. I have been in the profession for 20 years and I am constantly learning something new. Being a Surveyor is not a trade, it is a Profession, and an advanced one at that. If you are truly serious about becoming a Surveyor, research your states specific requirements, figure out what skills you already possess might be applicable and find a local Surveyor who is willing to sit down and discuss the profession with you. If that proves difficult, look up your states Society of Land Surveyors or Professional Surveyors, they generally have someone who can help.
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I think that once you see what it takes to become a land surveyor you will have a greater appreciation for why your survey cost what it did. Your self imposed limitations (part time commitment, entry level salary expectations) pretty much preclude you ever getting into this profession. Sorry, that’s the way it is. It’s not rocket science, but there is a significant B.O.K. to be acquired before you start making better than grunt labor wages.
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Rocket science? Yes, that’s simple. Every survey is a new invention.
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I recommend you pick up a good novel and read it on your time off on the weekends:)
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Posted by: SCarolina
are there specific books you guys recommend I pick up?
A generally recommended textbook is Elementary Surveying by Wolf and Ghilani (any recent edition). It will give you an idea of how much there is to learn on the technical side. Then you need the boundary law side.
Do some more reading on this forum to get a feel for what surveyors deal with and worry about.
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Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
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Posted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
Well sure, but you get paid a lot more than Doctors.
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Posted by: Duane Frymire
Well sure, but you get paid a lot more than Doctors.
Duane you just proved we still need the sarcasm font. A statement like that will mislead the original poster.
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Posted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
I never made this much money when I was a doctor… 😉
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No sarcasm there. My 1975 dodge dart does need a clutch though!
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Posted by: paden cashPosted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
I never made this much money when I was a doctor… 😉
I only started making more when doctors started under cutting each other on the price of prostate exams.
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Posted by: WilliwawPosted by: paden cashPosted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
I never made this much money when I was a doctor… 😉
I only started making more when doctors started under cutting each other on the price of prostate exams.
Just call the Doctors office and ask for a Prostate “Update”, no need to go in and get digitally explored.
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Just call the Doctors office and ask for a Prostate “Update”, no need to go in and get digitally explored.
My doc said that they (Kaiser, a large HMO) no longer recommend routine digital rectal exams. However, that’s how my brother’s prostate cancer was detected, so I asked to get one anyway. (As silly as it sounds, asking a guy to stick his finger up your butt doesn’t come easily, even when it’s your doc.) It’s hardly a pleasant experience, but the results were comforting.
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This post quickly took a tun for the worst…
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Posted by: Dallas Morlan
I am from Ohio and not an expert on Professional Land Surveying in your state, your profile indicates that is South Carolina. You should verify the information provided below with a local Professional Surveyor.
A few minutes research provided me with links to the South Carolina State Board of Registration for Professional Engineers and Surveyors. That site provides information on Professional Surveyor license requirements. I believe that running your own surveying business will require you to qualify for a Professional Surveying “TIER A” license.
The Laws and Policies link at right of the above page includes a link to “Engineers & Surveyors Statute (Effective March 2018)” the current law. That link opens a 23 page pdf file containing the license requirements. The definitions section makes clear the difference between TIER A and TIER B licenses. The section that defines the TIER A requirements is on page 14, “SECTION 40-22-225. Eligibility requirements for license as surveyor.” As I read this the requirement is a very specific four year college degree, two examinations and four years of experience under the supervision of a currently licensed Professional Surveyor.
Thatƒ??s a good start, thank you for the links! I am in SC and would like to be licensed in NC as well since Iƒ??m only a few minutes away from the border.
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Posted by: Bill93Posted by: SCarolina
are there specific books you guys recommend I pick up?
A generally recommended textbook is Elementary Surveying by Wolf and Ghilani (any recent edition). It will give you an idea of how much there is to learn on the technical side. Then you need the boundary law side.
Do some more reading on this forum to get a feel for what surveyors deal with and worry about.
Iƒ??ll have to pick it up this weekend.
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Posted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
When you mention advanced studies at a university are those master level classes? I have a bachelors degree but was think about taking a few classes offered at my local community college that teach surveying.
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Posted by: SCarolinaPosted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
When you mention advanced studies at a university are those master level classes? I have a bachelors degree but was think about taking a few classes offered at my local community college that teach surveying.
According to the State Board of Engineers and Surveyors in South Carolina, you need a bachelorƒ??s in Land Surveying to be a licensed surveyor in SC. If you want something better paying than entry-level, itƒ??s going to require career-specific education and testing.
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Posted by: SCarolinaPosted by: Williwaw
Occasionally I have to remind some people that in order to obtain my license I had to attend several years of advanced studies at a university and work under the supervision of many different surveyors, all of which took more than eight years, or roughly the equivalent amount of time required to become a doctor.
When you mention advanced studies at a university are those master level classes? I have a bachelors degree but was think about taking a few classes offered at my local community college that teach surveying.
Having fun/sarcasm aside. Looks to me like 12-15 semester hour credits at community college might do it for you. “Board approved” degrees could include yours. I would contact the board and ask them.
Because you’re interested in boundary surveying I would recommend: Measuring America, by Andro Linklater. Wealth of information and a bit more enjoyable reading to start off with.
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