City of Los Angeles Requirement for Additional Monuments
Just recently I have gotten back into doing Final tract and Parcel Maps in the City of Los Angeles. I am doing this work via sub contracting for another company that is swamped.
A lot has changed with the city. No longer will a “to be set” certification be allowed on the final maps. All boundary and accessory monuments required must be in place prior to the map being finalized and recorded.
This is fine.
However, there is one particular item that is being requested by the city survey division which I have yet to discover as being valid.
It involves additional monuments to be set and centerline tie sheets to be submitted to the city survey division. If that is not done, then the survey division will not approve the final map and it will not record.
I spoke with an individual last Friday, who is involved with this and asked him if there was a city ordinance passed that required this extra work to be done by private engineers and surveyors, he told me that there was an ordinance passed a few years ago and that he would email me a copy of it. I thanked him for that, told him I was quite interested in reading the ordinance but the email never arrived.
About two weeks prior to this conversation I was talking with one of the principals of the company I am doing the maps for about this extra work and he emailed me what he had on it….
Here is what he was faxed by someone at the city..
Here is a copy of the government code that is being used to justify this extra work..
2010 California Code
Article 9. Monuments
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66495. At the time of making the survey for the final map or parcel
map unless the survey is not required pursuant to Section 66448, the
engineer or surveyor shall set sufficient durable monuments to
conform with the standards described in Section 8771 of the Business
and Professions Code so that another engineer or surveyor may readily
retrace the survey. He shall also set such additional monuments as
may be required by local ordinance. The local agency shall require
that at least one exterior boundary line of the land being subdivided
be adequately monumented or referenced before the map is recorded.
I then did a search on the City of Los Angeles site that has all their ordinances
available for public viewing. Using the search function I used the words ‘Survey & Monument
& Centerline & Intersection’. Nothing hit.
I did find one ordinance however that was passed in 2008, just at the time frame the city employee
Now, if there is such an ordinance, then all is well. However, if one does not exist I see a two fold problem
that the city is facing.
Survey work does cost money to do. The finances spent could be paid by either the private practitioner or the developer.
If this additional work has been demanded without due city process then it does stand to reason that the developer or the private practitioner does have a right for reimbursement by the city for the expense that was paid out to do this additional work.
I blocked out the name and phone number of the company I am involved with simply to avoid their being a target of any type of retaliation. It may be a precaution that was not necessary, but I believe it is a prudent one.
Naturally, if the ordinance does exist, then this post is nothing more than that, a forum post.
I am posting here because I know that city survey personnel do lurk on the board and I am hoping to get a response back regarding the ordinance. Doe’s one exist or not. All I want is a definite answer to that question.
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